getting the story out. joining me tonight on the panel journalist and author rachel shabi and julio ricardo varela the president of futuro media. we will get to our panel shortly. first the latest bbc news. stormy daniels, the adult film star at the centre of donald trump's criminal trial in new york is giving testimony about their alleged sexual encounter in 2006. the prosecution argue that since she was paid right before the 2016 election, that constituted a campaign finance crime. donald trump says there is no case. the intelligence service in ukraine say they have uncovered a russian plot to assassinate president volodymyr zelensky. two colonels from the governments protection unit suspected of passing on secret information to the russian fsb have been arrested.

the white house says it is still hopeful israel and hamas can close the �*remaining gaps�* on a ceasefire agreement the palestinians have accepted but israel has rejected. the talks have begun again in cairo, while the fighting in gaza continues. the israeli's have cut off the main crossing point in rafah. rescuers in south africa had made contact with some of the construction workers trapped under the rubble in a collapsed building. five people have died and dozens missing. the building itself was a 5—story apartment building with the floors collapsed on top of each other. stormy daniels toward the jury in manhattan today when she first met donald trump he told her, this is the only way you're getting out of the only way you're getting out of the trailer park before having sex with her in his hotel suite in 2006. he denies ever having sex with daniels but the adult film star was paid $130,000 for her silence just

before the 2016 election. daniels told the court she grew up as the daughter of a single mum who was absent for days at the time and began working in strip clubs and in pornography before she met trump at a golf tournament. the former president paid her, she says, there hurried to let his adviser michael cohen. the prosecution alleged that he falsified business records to cover up the money he reimbursed and he did it to keep the electorate in the dark. that, the prosecution says, was the crime. the crime campaignfinance says, was the crime. the crime campaign finance violation, a felony to which michael cohen has already pleaded guilty. the former president says they have done nothing wrong. they have no case. every single legal scholar that i see, i mean, maybe there's somebody out there, some whackjob. but the for virtually every...everyone, that i've seen has said that absolutely no case. it's a case that shouldn't have been brought. we have heard a lot today about

president trump cosmic affair with stormy daniels. everything from the way it happened to his silk pyjamas. do you think that some salacious detail cuts through to the voting public? i detail cuts through to the voting ublic? ., �* “ ., detail cuts through to the voting ublic? ~ ., ., , ., detail cuts through to the voting ublic? ~ ., ., ~ ., public? i don't know any more. what i do know is — public? i don't know any more. what i do know is this _ public? i don't know any more. what i do know is this is once _ public? i don't know any more. what i do know is this is once again the i i do know is this is once again the obsession with trump that we are having in media in the sense that it is just free for him. i think we have come to the point that if he is convicted for this and he does go to jail and there is jail he make a to jail and there is jail he make a to jailfor jail and there is jail he make a to jail for contempt, jail and there is jail he make a to jailfor contempt, this jail and there is jail he make a to jail for contempt, this would jail and there is jail he make a to jailfor contempt, this would make his campaign, would almost re—energize his campaign. itjust feels weird that we are back in 2016 again. when i feel like we have never gotten out of this phase in the first place. so i had to check to see what year i am living in today, but wow. it is pretty obvious that the former president, this is a

clear strategy, that the former president, this is a clearstrategy, how that the former president, this is a clear strategy, how he typically says every legal scholar, does the same tricks over and over and you would think the american public and the global public would be tired of this right now, but i guess not. we will come back to that thought because it is interesting but since he raised the issue ofjail, it is an interesting point because not only might he faced jail if he is found guilty in this trial, but of course there is the gag order which he has broken ten times and has been fined on each occasion. but the judge merchan on said yesterday, if he breaks the gag order against that he breaks the gag order against that he risks going to jail. this is what the political analyst larry sabado told us last night. most observers don't understand donald _ most observers don't understand donald trump _ most observers don't understand donald trump wants _ most observers don't understand donald trump wants to - most observers don't understand donald trump wants to go - most observers don't understand donald trump wants to go to - most observers don't understand donald trump wants to go to jail| most observers don't understand i donald trump wants to go to jail for a night _ donald trump wants to go to jail for a night or— donald trump wants to go to jail for a night or two— donald trump wants to go to jail for a night or two or— donald trump wants to go to jail for a night or two or three. _ donald trump wants to go to jail for a night or two or three. he - donald trump wants to go to jail for a night or two or three. he loves. donald trump wants to go to jail for a night or two or three. he loves to| a night or two or three. he loves to play the _ a night or two or three. he loves to play the martyn _ a night or two or three. he loves to play the martyn he _ a night or two or three. he loves to play the martyr. he plays _ a night or two or three. he loves to play the martyr. he plays it- play the martyr. he plays it very welt _ play the martyr. he plays it very welt his— play the martyr. he plays it very welt his colt _ play the martyr. he plays it very well. his colt loves _ play the martyr. he plays it very well. his colt loves it. _ play the martyr. he plays it very well. his colt loves it. they- play the martyr. he plays it very well. his colt loves it. they willi well. his colt loves it. they will give _ well. his colt loves it. they will give more _ well. his colt loves it. they will give more money. _ well. his colt loves it. they will give more money. this - well. his colt loves it. they will give more money. this is - well. his colt loves it. they will give more money. this is all. well. his colt loves it. they will. give more money. this is all about fundraisind — give more money. this is all about

fundraising. whether— give more money. this is all about fundraising. whether he _ give more money. this is all about fundraising. whether he is- give more money. this is all about. fundraising. whether he is convicted or hot— fundraising. whether he is convicted or not in_ fundraising. whether he is convicted or not in this — fundraising. whether he is convicted or not in this particular— fundraising. whether he is convicted or not in this particular case, - fundraising. whether he is convicted or not in this particular case, i- or not in this particular case, i don't — or not in this particular case, i don't think— or not in this particular case, i don't think it _ or not in this particular case, i don't think it will _ or not in this particular case, i don't think it will make - or not in this particular case, i don't think it will make that. or not in this particular case, i- don't think it will make that much difference — don't think it will make that much difference "— don't think it will make that much difference. , . ., read that the secret service has been planning for weeks at the possibility that he could be sent to jail. do you think donald trump really likes the idea? i jail. do you think donald trump really likes the idea?— jail. do you think donald trump really likes the idea? i think it is all u side really likes the idea? i think it is all upside for — really likes the idea? i think it is all upside for him. _ really likes the idea? i think it is all upside for him. every - really likes the idea? i think it is all upside for him. every single l all upside for him. every single detail— all upside for him. every single detail is— all upside for him. every single detail is upside. it is free advertising. he would love to be the potential— advertising. he would love to be the potential republican nominee campaigning from prison. i see the new york_ campaigning from prison. i see the new york city mayor, if he is going to jail— new york city mayor, if he is going to jail we _ new york city mayor, if he is going to jail we have a place for him and their— to jail we have a place for him and their notorious cityjail there. it seems — their notorious cityjail there. it seems trump obviously is not going to he _ seems trump obviously is not going to be dissuaded by a $1000 fine on preaching _ to be dissuaded by a $1000 fine on preaching that gag order which he has now— preaching that gag order which he has now done i believe nine times now _

has now done i believe nine times now. , ., ., now. yes, nine or ten. there are otherjudges _ now. yes, nine or ten. there are otherjudges saying, _ now. yes, nine or ten. there are otherjudges saying, you - now. yes, nine or ten. there are otherjudges saying, you have i now. yes, nine or ten. there are otherjudges saying, you have toj otherjudges saying, you have to throw the book at him to set the example, but i think thejudge knows, he is not politically stupid. he knows what is going on here and it seems to me he is falling over himself not to send him to jail. i himself not to send him to jail. i think that is true because again, this is_ think that is true because again, this is att— think that is true because again, this is all free publicity for trurnn _ this is all free publicity for trump. there is a kudos or martyrdom of taking _ trump. there is a kudos or martyrdom of taking one _ trump. there is a kudos or martyrdom of taking one for the maga team by standing _ of taking one for the maga team by standing up to the cricket courts as he would _ standing up to the cricket courts as he would see it and he has already said, _ he would see it and he has already said. i_ he would see it and he has already said, i believe, jail is a price worth— said, i believe, jail is a price worth paying for that so all of this signal— worth paying for that so all of this signal boosts his story. —— crooked courts _ signal boosts his story. —— crooked courts it _ signal boosts his story. —— crooked courts. it doesn't feel like groundhog day and a replay of 2016. shall we _ groundhog day and a replay of 2016. shall we explore what that looks like. ifjudge merchan does send him

forward jailfor a net how like. ifjudge merchan does send him forward jail for a net how on earth would that be managed? —— for a night. we can speak to the former corrections commissioner new york city, martin horn. now professor of criminaljustice, at the john jay college. explain it to us. we were to go and how would it work.— explain it to us. we were to go and how would it work. a lot depends on what the judge _ how would it work. a lot depends on what the judge does. _ how would it work. a lot depends on what the judge does. the _ how would it work. a lot depends on what the judge does. the judge - what thejudge does. thejudge has many options open to him including just directing that he be confined for several hours, maybe four or six hours. in which case most likely scenario would be that he is held in one of the holding pens that are within that courthouse. i suspect that that is most likely the first step the judge would take. i think as everyone has said, it is not a step anyone once to take in confining him to jailfor longer than that. lest he forces the issue.

i am trying to imagine what the discussions must be within the secret service if they indeed had fitted the places where he may be sent. they would have to be with them, correct? if they were on the road as they would have to be there. yes as i understand that they are obligated to protect him at all times and all places. and i have no doubt that thejudge times and all places. and i have no doubt that the judge has times and all places. and i have no doubt that thejudge has been in touch with the city corrections agency and with the court officers and that they have been in touch with secret service. secret service has may have already reached out to them and got together and seeing how they would make the difficult and unique situation would work. haste unique situation would work. have ou unique situation would work. have you pondered _ unique situation would work. have you pondered how— unique situation would work. have you pondered how you _ unique situation would work. have you pondered how you would deal with this if you were still a member of

the new york city council as commissioner? i’m the new york city council as commissioner?— the new york city council as commissioner? �* ., ., commissioner? i'm not on the new york city council— commissioner? i'm not on the new york city council i _ commissioner? i'm not on the new york city council i was _ commissioner? i'm not on the new york city council i was in _ commissioner? i'm not on the new york city council i was in and - york city council i was in and pointed agency had a points by the mayor. pointed agency had a points by the ma or. ., i pointed agency had a points by the mayor-_ l have - pointed agency had a points by the mayor._ i have given . pointed agency had a points by the mayor._ i have given it| mayor. forgive me. i have given it some thought _ mayor. forgive me. i have given it some thought. i— mayor. forgive me. i have given it some thought. i think _ mayor. forgive me. i have given it some thought. i think obviously i mayor. forgive me. i have given it. some thought. i think obviously you want to accomplish two things. one is you want to treat this individual admitted to your custody to the maximum extent possible as you would treat any other individual committed to your custody. while, at the same time accommodating the legitimate and legally mandated requirements of the service. i think there are ways that can be accomplished. it would be difficult, it would be unique, but it can be done.— be difficult, it would be unique, but it can be done. those are live ictures but it can be done. those are live pictures we _ but it can be done. those are live pictures we are — but it can be done. those are live pictures we are watching - pictures we are watching donald trump going back into court for what we imagine another session this afternoon. we will keep you posted

on whatever comes out of that session. just a final thought, you would say you would treat him just like any other potential inmate, but he would be kept very separate from a prison population, correct? i think probably so. because he is likely to be closely guarded by armed secret service agents and because you do not want other inmates to come in contact or have access to a firearm, you are going to have to keep that whole operation, including mrtrump to have to keep that whole operation, including mr trump and the agents, separate from the other prisoners. the agents, separate from the other risoners. n. the agents, separate from the other risoners. a, ., ., ., ., the agents, separate from the other risoners. ., ., ., ,, prisoners. martin horn, good to talk to this evening. _ prisoners. martin horn, good to talk to this evening, we _ prisoners. martin horn, good to talk to this evening, we will— prisoners. martin horn, good to talk to this evening, we will see - prisoners. martin horn, good to talk to this evening, we will see if - prisoners. martin horn, good to talk to this evening, we will see if it - to this evening, we will see if it comes to that and if indeed, donald trump changes his policy with regards to the gag order. thank you joining us. an interesting thing he said is that this place to his base. there are

still one or two swing voters in america and ijust wonder if he was sent to jail, whether they would consider that a step too far. i have some faith — consider that a step too far. i have some faith in _ consider that a step too far. i have some faith in american _ consider that a step too far. i have | some faith in american democracy. consider that a step too far. i have i some faith in american democracy. if a former president is incarcerated, i think we are starting to get to points of tension of what this democracy really represents. i do have faith that in american voters to see the ridiculousness and seriousness of this. i will say, as we know, because trump is trump. he will turn this into a spectacle. i will turn this into a spectacle. i will not be surprised if the word political prisoner becomes the mantra. d0 political prisoner becomes the mantra. ,, political prisoner becomes the mantra. , ., ~ political prisoner becomes the mantra. ~ ., mantra. do you think we are getting it wron: in mantra. do you think we are getting it wrong in the _ mantra. do you think we are getting it wrong in the way _ mantra. do you think we are getting it wrong in the way we _ mantra. do you think we are getting it wrong in the way we cover - mantra. do you think we are getting it wrong in the way we cover it? i it wrong in the way we cover it? here we are with the top story, the trump trial, and i would argue there are probably more important stories

that we can be talking about. i'm not saying you are not. i write opinions for ms bc and i get it. trump equals interest. but i do think, and not to be little the american public in the voting public, but i do think there is part of this country right now that is to sick and tired of it. i of this country right now that is to sick and tired of it.— sick and tired of it. i thought we would get _ sick and tired of it. i thought we would get to _ sick and tired of it. i thought we would get to that _ sick and tired of it. i thought we would get to that point - sick and tired of it. i thought we would get to that point saying . sick and tired of it. i thought we l would get to that point saying this election is so critical particularly hearing you and that is why that campaign is so closely followed. finally, we did talk about the nostalgia which is a curious thing because we have seen it before when things go wrong for the incumbent or proceed to go wrong for the incumbent, then people start to think in different ways about what the first term was like. there's a bit of fat in the conservative party. there are some that looked back at boris johnson with fond eyes or yearn for the return of david

cameron. why does that happen? i think partly, globally, things are getting — think partly, globally, things are getting more and more care chaotic. there _ getting more and more care chaotic. there are _ getting more and more care chaotic. there are a — getting more and more care chaotic. there are a series of crises collapsing upon each other, climate, ukraine. _ collapsing upon each other, climate, ukraine, gaza, allthings that collapsing upon each other, climate, ukraine, gaza, all things that make people _ ukraine, gaza, all things that make people think come over and things tfetter— people think come over and things better a _ people think come over and things better a few years ago. i also think that when— better a few years ago. i also think that when it — better a few years ago. i also think that when it comes to something like the us. _ that when it comes to something like the us. you — that when it comes to something like the us, you are right, we should watch _ the us, you are right, we should watch this— the us, you are right, we should watch this election very closely, it is crucial— watch this election very closely, it is crucial and a critical one. i suspect— is crucial and a critical one. i suspect that the biggest foe in that mix is— suspect that the biggest foe in that mix is probably apathy. that is the trouble. _ mix is probably apathy. that is the trouble, that is the risk with an incumbent. people look atjoe biden and think. _ incumbent. people look atjoe biden and think, well, a bit of a disappointment, obviouslya and think, well, a bit of a disappointment, obviously a lot of fury around the way he is handled israel— fury around the way he is handled israel and — fury around the way he is handled israel and gaza, but i think the greatest — israel and gaza, but i think the greatest enemy of democracy is that apathy~ _ greatest enemy of democracy is that apathy~ it _ greatest enemy of democracy is that apathy. it is when people decide to

disengage. we apathy. it is when people decide to disenauae.~ , apathy. it is when people decide to disenuaae. ~ , ., . disengage. we believe that there. we will no to a disengage. we believe that there. we will go to a short _ disengage. we believe that there. we will go to a short break. _ disengage. we believe that there. we will go to a short break. a _ disengage. we believe that there. we will go to a short break. a line - disengage. we believe that there. we will go to a short break. a line of- will go to a short break. a line of breaking news, heathrow airport where border force is currently experiencing a nationwide issue. we all know what that means when there are problems at the gates, there are delays. so we are keeping our eye on that. i don't have much more information at the moment but i will try and get you some reaction to that through the course of the hour. around the world and across the uk. this is bbc news. for uk viewers still with us let me bring you up—to—date with some stories here. there have been reports of long delays at airports in the uk due to this outage affecting people at the border spokesman for heathrow airport said they were aware of an issue within they were aware of an issue within the systems. manchester airport also confirmed that they had been affected. john swinney will become scotland's seventh first minister after being nominated by parliament. the snp leader succeeds humza yousaf

who resigned from office earlier today. his appointment will be rubber—stamped by the king before he is officially sworn in at the court of session on wednesday. and it has been revealed that prince harry will not meet the king during his visit to the uk this week. a spokesman for the duke said a meeting between father and son was not possible because of the king's busy schedule. harry is in london to celibate the tenth anniversary of the games he set up to help rehabilitate the wounded or sick service personnel —— to celebrate. the israel defence forces have begun an expanded operation in rafah and have severed gaza's last link with the outside world. the crossing point into egypt. they have planted their own flag at that checkpoint. an unmistakable message to hamas that their grip on rafah is tightening. the israeli defence minister said the operation will not stop until hamas is eliminated or the hostages start to return.

but there is on the table a ceasefire proposal that hamas has already agreed. today the white house said they are confident the gaps between the two sides can be closed. so why were the israeli's seemingly blindsided by last night's announcement. and how far is this operation in rafah expected to go. sharren haskel is a member of the israeli knesset and she sits on the national security committee. welcome. help me with this. why did the israeli war cabinet not know what the final proposal was that hamas agreed to when bill burns, the cia chief, was so involved in it? the proposal that actually arrived yesterday was not really discussed with israel, not with the partners that were discussing it for a number of months now. this was a proposal that was brought, i believe, just through hamas. and this is the kind proposal that we cannot accept. hang

on, bill proposal that we cannot accept. hang on. ltill iturns — proposal that we cannot accept. hang on, bill burns was _ proposal that we cannot accept. hang on, bill burns was in _ proposal that we cannot accept. hang on, bill burns was in cairo the last weekend, israel was invited to attend and did not send. so wasn't the israeli war cabinet�*s mistake that they went to cross the detail out at the critical juncture? the out at the critical “uncture? the last four months i out at the criticaljuncture? iia: last four months we out at the criticaljuncture? tia: last four months we have out at the criticaljuncture? ii9: last four months we have been out at the criticaljuncture? i“i9 last four months we have been trying to negotiate with hamas. there has been a really, to be honest, a quiet cease—fire. there was not real operation, not a real war in gaza. that was in the attempt to do the most important thing that we want and it is to bring back ourfamily members. what is on the table now is not necessarily going to bring back all of them. not the babies, not all of our sisters and brothers and grandparents and fathers and that is our main goal. and the lack of knowing that they are going to be home, this is not necessarily something we can't agree. we are looking through the proposal at the moment but this is something that was not discussed before. there were

many proposals, very far—reaching, hamas is refused all of them. but the proposal that is now on the table cannot guarantee the return of all of them. and the fact that they are demanding a complete and to the operation is something that is very difficult for the israeli public to accept. difficult for the israeli public to accet. ., :, :, difficult for the israeli public to accet. ., ., ., , . , difficult for the israeli public to accet. :, :, ., , . _,.,~ , ., accept. national security spokesman at the white — accept. national security spokesman at the white house _ accept. national security spokesman at the white house john _ accept. national security spokesman at the white house john kirby i accept. national security spokesman at the white house john kirby said . at the white housejohn kirby said he thinks that gaps can be closed. these hostages has been underground for 200 days without adequate water and food and without medical care. are they not the priority? absolutely.— are they not the priority? absolutel. �* ., :, :, , absolutely. but a lot of people then sa the absolutely. but a lot of people then say the objective — absolutely. but a lot of people then say the objective to _ absolutely. but a lot of people then say the objective to eliminate i absolutely. but a lot of people then l say the objective to eliminate hamas is not compatible with the desire to bring home the hostages. that is but the family's essay. the bring home the hostages. that is but the family's essay.— the family's essay. the fact is that the family's essay. the fact is that the deal that _ the family's essay. the fact is that the deal that is now _ the family's essay. the fact is that the deal that is now on _ the family's essay. the fact is that the deal that is now on the - the family's essay. the fact is that the deal that is now on the table l the deal that is now on the table will not guarantee all of the hostages home, on the contrary and

we know that. hamas can't and does not want and actually reprove the return of all of them so what, should we just accept 20 or 30? what will the rest 100? i should we just accept 20 or 30? what will the rest 100?— will the rest 100? i think the white house is a 20 _ will the rest100? i think the white house is a 20 or— will the rest 100? i think the white house is a 20 or 30 _ will the rest 100? i think the white house is a 20 or 30 is _ will the rest 100? i think the white house is a 20 or 30 is better i will the rest 100? i think the white house is a 20 or 30 is better than l house is a 20 or 30 is better than nothing. ii house is a 20 or 30 is better than nothinu. ~ :, nothing. if we know we will never see aaain nothing. if we know we will never see again another _ nothing. if we know we will never see again another 100 _ nothing. if we know we will never see again another 100 then i nothing. if we know we will never see again another 100 then be i see again another 100 then be understand that we need to do anything in our capability to bring back all of them. which means that we have to enter rafah, we have to reach the crossing to eliminate hamas's military threat. the only way that the last deal was put on the table is because of military pressure. because we have pressured hamas they have put that deal on the table. the fact that there is a cease—fire for the last four months, thatis cease—fire for the last four months, that is what brought the negotiation to an end, where there is not a deal. if things would have been different, i believe hamas would have a long time ago put that deal on the table. the have a long time ago put that deal on the table-—

have a long time ago put that deal on the table. the idf have dropped these leaflets _ on the table. the idf have dropped these leaflets instructing _ on the table. the idf have dropped these leaflets instructing people i on the table. the idf have dropped these leaflets instructing people toj these leaflets instructing people to move to the 0lmos he can't up the coast road. but you have stopped the crossing. how can you sport 100,000 people going off to the camp if you cannot get aid to through the border? , ., , cannot get aid to through the border? , :, , , , , border? the idf has expressed leaflets but _ border? the idf has expressed leaflets but it _ border? the idf has expressed leaflets but it is _ border? the idf has expressed leaflets but it is also _ border? the idf has expressed leaflets but it is also for - border? the idf has expressed leaflets but it is also for the i border? the idf has expressed l leaflets but it is also for the last four months gazan civilians to actually clear and evaluate and start moving towards the north. there is clear passage and they can start moving up. the idf is also making specific phone calls to areas that we actually target where we know there is hamas points that we are about to attack and it is actually calling, phone calls, the entire area to evacuate. whether --eole entire area to evacuate. whether people trust _ entire area to evacuate. whether people trust in — entire area to evacuate. whether people trust in that _ entire area to evacuate. whether people trust in that passage i entire area to evacuate. whether i people trust in that passage remains to be seen, honestly, but the point unread has said they are running low on fuel and if they go to al—mawasi their operation. in three or four

days because there is not sufficient fuel to run a humanitarian operation. i fuelto run a humanitarian operation-— fuelto run a humanitarian oeration. :, :, , operation. i have to be honest with ou. the operation. i have to be honest with you- the fact _ operation. i have to be honest with you- the fact is _ operation. i have to be honest with you. the fact is that _ operation. i have to be honest with you. the fact is that unwra - operation. i have to be honest with you. the fact is that unwra is i operation. i have to be honest with you. the fact is that unwra is in l you. the fact is that unwra is in capable and is not able, does not have the logistics to look after the humanitarian aid necessary for palestinians in gaza. but whose fault is that? _ palestinians in gaza. but whose fault is that? the _ palestinians in gaza. but whose fault is that? the united - palestinians in gaza. but whose | fault is that? the united nations was u- if fault is that? the united nations was op if they — fault is that? the united nations was up if they had _ fault is that? the united nations was up if they had done - fault is that? the united nations was up if they had done in any i fault is that? the united nations i was up if they had done in any other conflict, any other disastrous area, which means, seven months ago,... create a proper plan for humanitarian aid... that is not factually true _ humanitarian aid... that is not factually true if _ humanitarian aid... that is not factually true if you _ humanitarian aid... that is not factually true if you look i humanitarian aid... that is not factually true if you look at i humanitarian aid... that is notj factually true if you look at the literacy and look how they have been daring in peacetime, unwra has done a pretty good job. in daring in peacetime, unwra has done a pretty good job-— a pretty good “0b. in peacetime unwra a pretty good job. in peacetime unwra section _ a pretty good job. in peacetime unwra section looking - a pretty good job. in peacetime unwra section looking after i a pretty good job. in peacetime. unwra section looking after the education and health care and housing industry cleaners as well. but it is not... it cannot supply humanitarian aid in emergencies times like now. it does not have the

logistics to actually do that. who has the logistics? who has the experience and not? that is our child who has done that with millions of refugees. 0r another in more than 25 million sudanese refugees and displaced people. they are supply unicef clean water for more than 6 million children if they would if created a plan with the idf seven months ago for the palestinians bring them, bring the proper organisation who have the experience to deal with humanitarian disasters it would have been, it would have looked different. but what actually happened? the secretary of the united nations and tony gutierrez actually called this organisation and told them not to receive contributions from countries who donated to unwra. it means instead of taking those hundreds of millions of dollars and putting them

in the world food organisation, and unicef, the world health organization, to transport them to 0rganization, to transport them to god as gazan citizens who are in desperate need of humanitarian aid, he did not want to compromise unwra and actually prevented this aid to reaching palestinians. you and actually prevented this aid to reaching palestinians.— and actually prevented this aid to reaching palestinians. you will know the criticisms _ reaching palestinians. you will know the criticisms of _ reaching palestinians. you will know the criticisms of the _ reaching palestinians. you will know the criticisms of the israeli - the criticisms of the israeli government and how little aid has gone in. ijust want to move on. i have a point there because the crossing of israel has been open and there are hundreds of trucks coming in. ., :, :, :, in. there are not enough going in. that's not — in. there are not enough going in. that's not me _ in. there are not enough going in. that's not me saying _ in. there are not enough going in. that's not me saying that - in. there are not enough going in. that's not me saying that that i in. there are not enough going in. that's not me saying that that is l that's not me saying that that is the british and american government. i'm sure you've seen the pictures of the unwra logistical centres where they have hundreds of containers, full of humanitarian aid. that they cannot distribute because they do not have the logistics.— cannot distribute because they do not have the logistics. they're were a thousand — not have the logistics. they're were a thousand trucks _ not have the logistics. they're were a thousand trucks a _ not have the logistics. they're were a thousand trucks a day going i not have the logistics. they're were a thousand trucks a day going into i a thousand trucks a day going into gaza in peacetime and a day going into gaza in peacetime and 150 are going in at the moment. that is a big step forward from where we were several weeks ago. flan big step forward from where we were several weeks ago.— several weeks ago. can you explain to me why trucks _ several weeks ago. can you explain to me why trucks are _ several weeks ago. can you explain to me why trucks are not _ several weeks ago. can you explain to me why trucks are not going i several weeks ago. can you explainj to me why trucks are not going into gaza through the egyptian border,

and now through the israeli border? it is because as soon as they are crossing it, there are palestinians and hamas who are actually... you so ou are and hamas who are actually... you so you are accepting _ and hamas who are actually... you so you are accepting that _ and hamas who are actually... you so you are accepting that there is - and hamas who are actually... you so you are accepting that there is not i you are accepting that there is not enough. filth you are accepting that there is not enou:h. . you are accepting that there is not enou:h. , . you are accepting that there is not enough-_ l'm - you are accepting that there is not enough-_ l'm noti enough. on these trucks. i'm not dis-cutin enough. on these trucks. i'm not disputing that — enough. on these trucks. i'm not disputing that but _ enough. on these trucks. i'm not disputing that but you _ enough. on these trucks. i'm not disputing that but you are - enough. on these trucks. i'm not i disputing that but you are accepting that there is not going in. so disputing that but you are accepting that there is not going in.— that there is not going in. so those brin . in: that there is not going in. so those bringing the _ that there is not going in. so those bringing the aid — that there is not going in. so those bringing the aid and _ that there is not going in. so those bringing the aid and our— that there is not going in. so those bringing the aid and our in - that there is not going in. so those bringing the aid and our in life i bringing the aid and our in life danger bringing them into some do not want to go in. at the united nations had set up a clear zone in the north of gaza, properly, with ocha, a the north of gaza, properly, with 0cha, a plan, it wouldn't look completely different but unfortunately the priority of the nine nations are different for stopped is not to look after the palestinians, but actually to insist on the continuation of a corrupt organisation that is rotten to the core which is called unwra. i want to talk about _ core which is called unwra. i want to talk about the _ core which is called unwra. i want to talk about the white _ core which is called unwra. i want to talk about the white house i to talk about the white house perspective that to continue this, risks the israelis losing international support. speaking today about the threat of rising anti—semitism in the united states

which most definitely is a problem. we have seen it around university campuses. as have listened to what he had to say. as jews around the world still cope with the atrocities and trauma of that day and its aftermath, we've seen a ferocious surge of anti—semitism in america and around the world. vicious propaganda on social media. jews forced to keep their...hide or keep under baseball hats. tucked theirjewish stars into their shirts. 0n college campuses jewish students blocked, harassed, attacked while walking to class. do you worry that to continue this exacerbates a problem. the problem has to be tackled in a he is right to topical to lee mcculloch it out but are you worried that the policies being followed into gaza and the west bank are exacerbating the problems around the world? i

will tell you what. i am very worried and concerned about the rise of anti—semitism particularly in what i have seen on campuses. this is an old ancient anti—semitism with a serious twist. you see there are people who are actually in support of hamas, it means that these are people who are actually chanting, for the anti—fado. pare people who are actually chanting, for the anti-fado._ for the anti-fado. are they in su ort for the anti-fado. are they in sopport of — for the anti-fado. are they in support of hamas _ for the anti-fado. are they in support of hamas or- for the anti-fado. are they in support of hamas or in i for the anti-fado. are they in support of hamas or in the i for the anti-fado. are they in i support of hamas or in the sport of palestinians?— palestinians? from what you hear them chanting. — palestinians? from what you hear them chanting, for _ palestinians? from what you hear them chanting, for example i palestinians? from what you hear them chanting, for example the l them chanting, for example the slogan of intifada and by any means, what does it mean? it means that raping young girls in front of their parents is acceptable. it means that burning alive women is acceptable. it means that what had happened is actually cutting abb out of its mother's room and beheading it and then shooting the mum is actually a legitimate form of resistance. this type of thing is unacceptable and i am really worried because the

disinformation that is spread in the propaganda that is spread on social media is a very, very worrying. irate media is a very, very worrying. we are out of— media is a very, very worrying. we are out of time. we are up against the break. thank you for talking to us and coming onto the programme. we will take a short break. we will be right back. hello there. despite some cloud across northern areas, especially across scotland, much of the country had a pretty decent day today with a good deal of sunshine around. it felt quite warm through the afternoon. that's how we're keeping things for the rest of this week. always a bit more cloud across this northwest corner with some rain at times, particularly the north and west of scotland. by far, the bulk of the dry, sunny weather will be across england and wales. there may be the odd isolated shower here and there, but most places will stay dry. in fact, a pretty good looking week coming up all in all, thanks to high pressure which has been building in, killing off the showers, pushing away the weather fronts. it's left a legacy of cloud, though, and that's what we're going to see

again across parts of the north of the uk and also some sea fog, some mist and murk here and there across north sea coasts in towards the irish sea as well, but generally dry for most with a few clear spells. temperatures 6—10 celsius. high pressure then dominates the scenes, gets a bit stronger across the country, so i think we'll see fewer showers for england and wales. but these weather fronts will bring thicker cloud, more of a breeze. outbreaks of rain to the north—west of the country, most places starting dry, a bit of mist and murk to start off with plenty of sunshine, england and wales, southern and eastern scotland, northern ireland. then we'll start to see splashes of rain with increasing breeze across the north and west of scotland into the afternoon. so, 13—14 degrees here, up to 20 for southern scotland, 21 or 22 in the warmest spots in england and wales, and winds generally light coming in from the south. wednesday night, most places dry again with clear spells, variable cloud. stays quite cloudy, breezy with outbreaks of rain across the northern half of scotland through the night and temperatures again six to around ten degrees. so, for thursday, then i think we'll see more sunshine around across england and wales. bit of a cloudy start, then the sunshine really gets

going and i don't think there'll be any issues with the showers whatsoever — should stay completely dry. a bit more cloud for northern scotland. the odd shower here, but southern scotland, northern ireland doing pretty well. temperatures 19 or 20 degrees here, 22 or 23, the warmest spots across england and wales. high pressure continues to bring fine weather on friday and into the weekend as well, but it starts to retreat towards the continent and allows low pressure to take over initially from the west as we head through the latter part of sunday. so it could be quite warm friday and certainly into the weekend across the south of the country. by the end of sunday, we start to see a few showers, i think, pushing into western areas. take care.